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jeffw_00
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So, at least on my XP SP2 PC,
start -> Turn Off Computer -> Restart (or Shutdown)
doesn't work anymore, because it can't kill the TimerApp.
One solution is to create a REBOOT shortcut and put it in your start menu that points to a .BAT file (DOS Script) that contains the command
shutdown -f -r -t 10
Which -forces- a reboot after 10 seconds.
However, it's not so great to always FORCE a shutdown of your PC. "FORCE" kills processes indescriminately, disallowing an orderly exit. So here's a better way.
1) Get the freeware process.exe from
http://www.beyondlogic.org/consulting/processutil/processuti l.htm
2) write a .BAT file that does
process.exe -k SDM3.exe
shutdown -r -t 10
And invoke this file when you want to reboot.
The first line successfully kills the TimerApp.
The only problem is that your Virus scanner may flag process.exe as an "unwanted app", because it can kill processes. You need to add it to your scanner's exclusion list.
/j
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Thanks Jeff,  I've been trying to solve this one for a long time. Had not found the freeware.
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actually, this works better
c:\util\process.exe -k pwrhome.exe
doze 10
c:\util\process.exe -k SDM3.exe
doze 3
shutdown -r -t 5
exit
get doze.exe by searching google, for example... here
http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=4170
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Same idea, but a freebie from MSFT:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndTh reads/PsKill.mspx
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I am still having a similar problem. SDM3 does not close when I close PowerHome and prevents me from rebooting my computer. Are there any other fixes for this? Is there a way to get PowerHome to close SDM3 when it closes?
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are you running 2.0? Dave thought he fixed this there.
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One sure fix is to upgrade to the PLM. Otherwise I found Task Manager to be the only real way to kill it without killing the power.
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seems like a pricey fix to me. 8-}
Beachbum, did you try my fix above?
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I run both and the PLC hangs every few weeks or so and the PLM has yet to hang PH since I’ve used it. Yes it’s pricy but time wasted and aggravation is also. SDM runs by itself and is not really a PH issue other than it relies on it for App support for PLC support. From my observation, I would say SH is slowly phasing the PLC out. My 2 cents worth.
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Ok, but for those of us who (knock wood) have no problems with the PLC...
This really isn't a sufficient reason to upgrade, I think?
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For that reason, if your happy, then don’t fix what’s not broke but this thread is about a broken process. And then there is the reliability and speed plus future Insteon support that the PLM offers.
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Lazyman, I'm running PH 2.1b, XP Home Edition SP3. Although normally I run with a PLM I switched back to the PLC Controller definition to see what happens with SDM3 when PH is shutdown. The PH connection to SDM3 is closed but the SDM3 Icon remains in the system tray. I was able to shutdown XP with no special action with this condition.
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I'm sorry - not explaining myself well. At least right now, my PLC has all the reliability and speed I need 8-},
and more important, the O.P. didn't complain about reliability or speed, or even indicate if he had a PLC or PLM, or 1.0 or 2.0? I was trying to be jocular about it, but I guess my point was to try to help him fix his problem rather than sell him something he may or may not need.
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Pete, thanks for posting your experience with the PLM. I agree completely with your view that the PLM is a better choice than the PLC. It is faster, more reliable, eliminates SDM3 and provides the powerline interface necessary to support ED messages. For those that are happy with what they have, with no plans to move to any of the new Insteon devices which utilize ED, sounds fine with me. Anyone who is moving forward with new Insteon devices should consider moving to a PLM.
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all right, I'll bite.
what's "ED"? I assume it has a meaning different than in the daily emails I get 8-}
and for the record, I'm not disputing the PLM is "better". But, except for this "ED" of which you mention, I've found that the PLC does the job fine. I wouldn't tell someone to buy a PLM strictly over the reboot issue.
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jeffw_00 wrote:
all right, I'll bite.
what's "ED"? I assume it has a meaning different than in the daily emails I get 8-}
and for the record, I'm not disputing the PLM is "better". But, except for this "ED" of which you mention, I've found that the PLC does the job fine. I wouldn't tell someone to buy a PLM strictly over the reboot issue. |
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Extended Data or something along those lines -- essentially, for newer devices that need/support longer messages than the current ones Insteon uses. I forget the exact message lengths. I believe some have been calling this I2 (Insteon 2) for these extended length messages...
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Ok - i'll worry about it when I want a device that uses it 8-}
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PowerHome version 2.1b can be set to automatically close the SDM when PH closes. To enable this functionality, just edit the pwrhome.ini file (default in c:\program files\powerhome) and locate the [SDM] section. Set the "shutdown" parameter equal to 1. Save/close the file and restart or reinit PowerHome.
HTH,
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Ok - so in Powerhome 1, if you wanted to reboot your system, you had to first exit powerhome, and then exit the SDM, and then do the reboot. In 2.1, you can have Powerhome exit the SDM for you when PH shuts down, but this doesn't really solve the problem.
At least for me (curious if others have this too), I'm running XPHomeSP3, when I do a Start->Turn Off Computer->Restart, the first thing I get is the prompt from Powerhome asking if I really want to exit, if I say Yes, then Powerhome, SDM, and most other apps and TSRs exit, but the system does NOT reboot, apparently the pause injected by Powerhome screws up the process, and I have to do the restart again (now with no apps running) to get the system to actually reboot.
This is an annoyance, and makes life difficult for automated shutdowns. To do a scheduled reboot, one can still do a shutdown -f(orce), but that's still not a great thing to do, so I still have to use the technique at the top of this thread.
So I'm wondering
a) Can other people who run 2.1b on XP-SP3 simply do a Start->Turn Off Computer->Restart and get their PC to reboot?
b) Can/should Dave put on his todo list modifying powerhome so that it is well-behaved during a conventional reboot/shutdown?
Thanks
/j
Edited by jeffw_00 - April 26 2009 at 14:13
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